1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,979 going to begin with the growing crisis 2 00:00:01,979 --> 00:00:03,540 at the White House the Attorney General 3 00:00:03,540 --> 00:00:05,400 Merrick Garland appointing a special 4 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,859 counsel to take the reins of an 5 00:00:07,859 --> 00:00:10,200 investigation into classified documents 6 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,840 found at President Biden's home and his 7 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,360 former private office this brings us to 8 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,460 a very unique moment in American history 9 00:00:17,460 --> 00:00:19,920 with special counsels looking into both 10 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,960 the sitting president and his immediate 11 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,199 predecessor at the same time for similar 12 00:00:25,199 --> 00:00:27,119 matters while Republicans are now 13 00:00:27,119 --> 00:00:29,519 pouncing on Biden some went out of their 14 00:00:29,519 --> 00:00:31,679 way to downplay Trump's potential 15 00:00:31,679 --> 00:00:35,280 mishandling of classified records 16 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,200 what I've seen that the National 17 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,360 Archives was concerned about Trump 18 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,340 having in his possession didn't amount 19 00:00:41,340 --> 00:00:43,020 to a hill of being I don't know what 20 00:00:43,020 --> 00:00:46,260 documents were at mar-a Largo is it fair 21 00:00:46,260 --> 00:00:48,000 to say that investigation won't be a 22 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,100 priority that will not be a priority 23 00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:52,379 this is very concerning I mean this is 24 00:00:52,379 --> 00:00:55,079 now the second location that the 25 00:00:55,079 --> 00:00:56,579 president was in possession of 26 00:00:56,579 --> 00:00:58,559 classified documents look what's the 27 00:00:58,559 --> 00:01:01,260 vice president doing with classified 28 00:01:01,260 --> 00:01:03,840 documents this is so outrageous that 29 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,700 this has to rise to the level of there 30 00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:07,200 better be this better not be a clerical 31 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,900 issue between the archivist uh and the 32 00:01:09,900 --> 00:01:12,060 the the former president I've been in 33 00:01:12,060 --> 00:01:14,939 the Oval Office with the president and 34 00:01:14,939 --> 00:01:16,799 I'd be very surprised if he has actual 35 00:01:16,799 --> 00:01:18,240 documents at Rice level immediate 36 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,860 national security threat these facts and 37 00:01:19,860 --> 00:01:21,119 circumstances are just absolutely 38 00:01:21,119 --> 00:01:22,740 outrageous I mean this is completely 39 00:01:22,740 --> 00:01:24,540 mishandling of classified information 40 00:01:24,540 --> 00:01:26,939 why did he have these documents uh when 41 00:01:26,939 --> 00:01:28,200 did he get them did he get them when he 42 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,759 was vice president and then take them 43 00:01:29,759 --> 00:01:31,200 with him when he left are you going to 44 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,640 hold hearings it is possible that we 45 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,259 will hold hearings on them if they try 46 00:01:34,259 --> 00:01:35,759 to prosecute president Trump up for 47 00:01:35,759 --> 00:01:37,740 mishandling class classified information 48 00:01:37,740 --> 00:01:40,439 after Hillary Clinton set up a server in 49 00:01:40,439 --> 00:01:42,420 her basement they literally will be 50 00:01:42,420 --> 00:01:44,460 rights in the street I worry about our 51 00:01:44,460 --> 00:01:46,860 country if there's not a special counsel 52 00:01:46,860 --> 00:01:49,259 appointed to find out how this happened 53 00:01:49,259 --> 00:01:52,200 with President Biden regarding 54 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,659 classified information there is going to 55 00:01:54,659 --> 00:01:56,640 be a lot of ain't 56 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,159 it will hurt the country okay that was 57 00:01:59,159 --> 00:02:00,540 Republicans and now we look at what 58 00:02:00,540 --> 00:02:04,200 Democrats said then and now 59 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,299 the fact that they were in an unsecured 60 00:02:06,299 --> 00:02:08,758 place that is guarded with nothing more 61 00:02:08,758 --> 00:02:11,640 than a padlock or whatever security they 62 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:12,860 had at a hotel 63 00:02:12,860 --> 00:02:16,200 is deeply alarming I think whenever 64 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,760 passed my documents or somewhere that 65 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:18,780 shouldn't be 66 00:02:18,780 --> 00:02:21,360 we see no evidence of deliberate intent 67 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,000 or obstruction of justice as we see in 68 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,340 the case of Donald Trump in our life 69 00:02:26,340 --> 00:02:28,560 out 70 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,620 ability I have committed a felony and if 71 00:02:31,620 --> 00:02:33,900 a president takes them out of a out of a 72 00:02:33,900 --> 00:02:36,120 facility he too has broken the law of 73 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,739 classified information needs to stay in 74 00:02:37,739 --> 00:02:39,300 Secure spaces so we'll wait to see the 75 00:02:39,300 --> 00:02:41,040 facts but uh you know classified 76 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,959 information needs to be in Secure spaces 77 00:02:42,959 --> 00:02:44,760 this is likely criminal what has 78 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,920 happened at Mar-A-Lago and you have to 79 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:49,379 wonder why was he hiding these documents 80 00:02:49,379 --> 00:02:51,780 even when they were requested but you 81 00:02:51,780 --> 00:02:54,060 also have to wonder with someone who you 82 00:02:54,060 --> 00:02:56,040 cannot trust like Donald Trump what else 83 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,780 is there of course I'm concerned I think 84 00:02:57,780 --> 00:02:59,700 the president is concerned that is 85 00:02:59,700 --> 00:03:03,180 obviously you know unintentional and and 86 00:03:03,180 --> 00:03:06,780 outside of the requirements of our 87 00:03:06,780 --> 00:03:08,519 intelligence laws classified information 88 00:03:08,519 --> 00:03:11,159 must remain in secured compartments but 89 00:03:11,159 --> 00:03:13,739 cooperation is coming from the Biden 90 00:03:13,739 --> 00:03:15,180 Administration and the president's 91 00:03:15,180 --> 00:03:17,640 lawyers and there was Zero cooperation 92 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:20,459 from Donald Trump who tried to do 93 00:03:20,459 --> 00:03:23,280 everything possible not to cooperate 94 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,500 the Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer 95 00:03:25,500 --> 00:03:27,659 joined CNN this morning and also weighed 96 00:03:27,659 --> 00:03:29,700 in 97 00:03:29,700 --> 00:03:32,819 there's special prosecutor in each 98 00:03:32,819 --> 00:03:35,340 situation I think President Biden has 99 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:37,680 handled this correctly he's fully 100 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,739 cooperated uh with the prosecutors when 101 00:03:40,739 --> 00:03:42,360 the documents were found he notified 102 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,760 archives it's total contrast to 103 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,239 president Trump who stole stonewalled 104 00:03:48,239 --> 00:03:50,819 for a whole year but the point is we now 105 00:03:50,819 --> 00:03:53,879 have special prosecutors on for both of 106 00:03:53,879 --> 00:03:56,340 these situations very serious people we 107 00:03:56,340 --> 00:03:57,780 should let it play out we don't have to 108 00:03:57,780 --> 00:04:00,060 push them in any direction or try to 109 00:04:00,060 --> 00:04:01,739 influence them that's all I'm going to 110 00:04:01,739 --> 00:04:04,200 say let the special prosecutors do their 111 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,519 job 112 00:04:05,519 --> 00:04:07,980 noticed he said special prosecutors 113 00:04:07,980 --> 00:04:09,480 that's because yes there are two of them 114 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,799 now there's the other documents 115 00:04:10,799 --> 00:04:12,720 investigation and there are developments 116 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,220 in that this morning as sources are 117 00:04:14,220 --> 00:04:15,480 telling me and my colleague Caitlin 118 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,699 polans the justice department wants to 119 00:04:17,699 --> 00:04:19,680 talk to the two people who were hired to 120 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,720 search for president Trump's properties 121 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,520 in November obviously Federal 122 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,080 investigators are still questioning 123 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,759 whether after months the foreign 124 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:28,500 president has actually fully complied 125 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:30,240 with the subpoena that he got to return 126 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,940 all classified documents Caitlyn Collins 127 00:04:32,940 --> 00:04:35,040 is here with me this morning Kayla and I 128 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,360 we you're not even talking to our 129 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,040 sources about this trying to get a check 130 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,540 basically on what's happening in this 131 00:04:39,540 --> 00:04:41,759 other special counsel's investigation as 132 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:43,020 we're learning about the new special 133 00:04:43,020 --> 00:04:45,240 counsel that was appointed yesterday but 134 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,740 when it comes to this documents 135 00:04:46,740 --> 00:04:48,780 investigation with Trump what's so 136 00:04:48,780 --> 00:04:50,460 notable here is what we heard from 137 00:04:50,460 --> 00:04:52,320 sources about the fact that they want to 138 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,540 talk to the people that Trump's team 139 00:04:54,540 --> 00:04:56,880 hired to go and look and make sure there 140 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,620 were no other classified documents at 141 00:04:58,620 --> 00:05:00,479 any other Trump properties 142 00:05:00,479 --> 00:05:02,520 right Caitlyn so we know that this 143 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,320 Justice Department investigation is 144 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,840 continuing on they're still making moves 145 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:09,540 to try and talk to people that we're 146 00:05:09,540 --> 00:05:11,180 working with Donald Trump's legal team 147 00:05:11,180 --> 00:05:13,740 we are confirmation this morning as the 148 00:05:13,740 --> 00:05:15,419 justice department wants to talk to two 149 00:05:15,419 --> 00:05:17,340 people the Donald Trump's legal team 150 00:05:17,340 --> 00:05:20,460 hired in November to search multiple 151 00:05:20,460 --> 00:05:22,259 properties of his about four properties 152 00:05:22,259 --> 00:05:24,600 and that they had found two classified 153 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,900 records in a storage unit in Florida and 154 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:30,060 so this is the latest step of an 155 00:05:30,060 --> 00:05:33,180 investigation that is going on uh for a 156 00:05:33,180 --> 00:05:35,699 year now that we know of and it is an 157 00:05:35,699 --> 00:05:37,199 investigation that differs from the 158 00:05:37,199 --> 00:05:38,400 investigation we've been talking about 159 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,680 this morning related to to Joe Biden 160 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,960 because there are questions that the 161 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,220 justice department has on whether 162 00:05:44,220 --> 00:05:47,400 Justice is being obstructed here by the 163 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,180 Trump team and also they clearly may not 164 00:05:51,180 --> 00:05:53,340 believe all of the records that are 165 00:05:53,340 --> 00:05:56,520 classified are asserted to be back in 166 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,440 the hands of the federal government that 167 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,120 is something the Justice from it clearly 168 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,280 is is still trying to make sure that 169 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:04,380 they have everything back now we did 170 00:06:04,380 --> 00:06:06,780 speak to one of Donald Trump's attorneys 171 00:06:06,780 --> 00:06:09,180 on the record Timothy Timothy parlatory 172 00:06:09,180 --> 00:06:12,419 he was telling telling us that his team 173 00:06:12,419 --> 00:06:14,520 is trying to be very Cooperative with 174 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,199 the justice department at this stage 175 00:06:16,199 --> 00:06:17,880 they did these searches they hired their 176 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,979 people they're trying to negotiate now 177 00:06:19,979 --> 00:06:24,060 potentially to talk to the justice 178 00:06:24,060 --> 00:06:26,400 department team and his quote to us on 179 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,139 the record was that President Trump did 180 00:06:28,139 --> 00:06:30,479 nothing wrong and a proper investigation 181 00:06:30,479 --> 00:06:33,660 would have concluded months ago amicably 182 00:06:33,660 --> 00:06:36,419 but Caitlin our understanding now from 183 00:06:36,419 --> 00:06:38,340 our sources is that the justice 184 00:06:38,340 --> 00:06:39,900 department wants to do an interview with 185 00:06:39,900 --> 00:06:41,580 these invest with these people that were 186 00:06:41,580 --> 00:06:43,680 hired by the Trump team pretty soon yeah 187 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,479 and Caitlin if this is borne out what 188 00:06:45,479 --> 00:06:46,800 we're hearing that they do want to talk 189 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,060 to these two people these two 190 00:06:48,060 --> 00:06:49,259 individuals who searched these 191 00:06:49,259 --> 00:06:51,539 properties what's the sense of what that 192 00:06:51,539 --> 00:06:52,919 looks like with attorney client 193 00:06:52,919 --> 00:06:54,780 privilege or Trump's team trying to 194 00:06:54,780 --> 00:06:56,759 limit some of the questions that they 195 00:06:56,759 --> 00:06:58,139 can ask them 196 00:06:58,139 --> 00:07:00,300 well I think that is where the 197 00:07:00,300 --> 00:07:03,180 negotiation comes in so these people are 198 00:07:03,180 --> 00:07:05,699 not lawyers as far as I can gather from 199 00:07:05,699 --> 00:07:07,740 the sources I've been talking to but 200 00:07:07,740 --> 00:07:09,479 they are people who were hired to work 201 00:07:09,479 --> 00:07:12,300 as part of the legal team and everything 202 00:07:12,300 --> 00:07:14,220 that they would have done uh Donald 203 00:07:14,220 --> 00:07:16,020 Trump's team is going to want to try and 204 00:07:16,020 --> 00:07:18,419 potentially keep covered so that the 205 00:07:18,419 --> 00:07:19,860 justice department may not be able to 206 00:07:19,860 --> 00:07:21,479 ask them all of the questions that they 207 00:07:21,479 --> 00:07:23,699 want all right Caitlin Poland's great 208 00:07:23,699 --> 00:07:25,680 teamwork I love working with you um all 209 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:26,639 right we'll check back in with you on 210 00:07:26,639 --> 00:07:28,319 this thank you 211 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:29,880 let's talk about the big picture here 212 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,740 and all that is transpired in the last 213 00:07:31,740 --> 00:07:33,780 24 hours on this CNN anchor and host of 214 00:07:33,780 --> 00:07:35,220 who's talking to Chris Wallace Chris 215 00:07:35,220 --> 00:07:36,960 Wallace good morning Chris 216 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,240 morning to you poppy what do you think I 217 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,139 mean here we are with two presidents 218 00:07:43,139 --> 00:07:45,860 presidents we 219 00:07:46,860 --> 00:07:48,780 since before us Jamie gangel says Knight 220 00:07:48,780 --> 00:07:51,720 in a word never and two people that 221 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,919 might face off in the 2024 election 222 00:07:55,919 --> 00:07:57,960 well it's why we all got into the news 223 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,460 business because we know that no 224 00:07:59,460 --> 00:08:01,680 Hollywood scriptwriter could have come 225 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,500 up with this and and you know it's it's 226 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:06,120 just so astonishing in those clips you 227 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,220 showed before of Republicans making 228 00:08:08,220 --> 00:08:10,440 excuses for Trump and piling on Biden 229 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,599 Democrats doing exactly the opposite 230 00:08:12,599 --> 00:08:14,220 that does remind me of a Hollywood 231 00:08:14,220 --> 00:08:16,740 script Casablanca where their French 232 00:08:16,740 --> 00:08:19,139 inspector leaves the casino comes out 233 00:08:19,139 --> 00:08:20,819 and says I'm shocked to find out that 234 00:08:20,819 --> 00:08:22,800 there's gambling going on in the back 235 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,139 room here I mean it's all politics and 236 00:08:25,139 --> 00:08:27,419 it's quite extraordinary and you know 237 00:08:27,419 --> 00:08:29,099 yes they're going to be investigating as 238 00:08:29,099 --> 00:08:30,780 Caitlyn just pointed out they're 239 00:08:30,780 --> 00:08:32,940 continuing to investigate Trump and 240 00:08:32,940 --> 00:08:35,159 whether he still has documents but given 241 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:36,179 the fact that we just found out 242 00:08:36,179 --> 00:08:39,120 yesterday there was a third batch of 243 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,860 documents or at least one document a 244 00:08:40,860 --> 00:08:44,099 third group uh coming from Biden you got 245 00:08:44,099 --> 00:08:45,720 to assume that the the new special 246 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,580 prosecutor special counsel will be 247 00:08:47,580 --> 00:08:49,620 investigating that and whether we have 248 00:08:49,620 --> 00:08:51,779 found all of the Biden documents 249 00:08:51,779 --> 00:08:55,440 if you're explaining you're losing yeah 250 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,200 and so listen I I think obviously I 251 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,180 think the viewers at home are very smart 252 00:09:00,180 --> 00:09:01,740 because people when I said you know 253 00:09:01,740 --> 00:09:02,940 people at home are going to see these 254 00:09:02,940 --> 00:09:04,080 and they're going to see them as very 255 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,300 similar situations right and other 256 00:09:06,300 --> 00:09:07,920 criticism was well people you know 257 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,240 you're saying that the viewers are dumb 258 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,279 people I know people aren't dumb but 259 00:09:11,279 --> 00:09:13,140 people aren't paying attention to every 260 00:09:13,140 --> 00:09:15,120 single Nuance Chris and when they look 261 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,220 at when they say Biden had documents and 262 00:09:17,220 --> 00:09:19,200 Trump had documents 263 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,120 um and Biden is gonna the Biden people 264 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,800 are gonna have to explain how this is 265 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,540 different every single time if they're 266 00:09:24,540 --> 00:09:25,860 explaining are they losing at least 267 00:09:25,860 --> 00:09:28,440 politically absolutely you know there 268 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,000 may be legal differences and I think 269 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,980 there are obviously in the case of trump 270 00:09:31,980 --> 00:09:34,920 there was a year fight with a grand jury 271 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,200 subpoena and eventually they had to raid 272 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,779 uh and at this point we have no evidence 273 00:09:39,779 --> 00:09:41,100 of that with Biden that everything 274 00:09:41,100 --> 00:09:43,440 they've found again so far we have no 275 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,000 evidence that if they found something 276 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,700 they didn't immediately turn it over but 277 00:09:47,700 --> 00:09:49,980 in the political sense you're exactly 278 00:09:49,980 --> 00:09:52,140 right it's one guy had documents and 279 00:09:52,140 --> 00:09:55,140 remember how Biden went after Trump back 280 00:09:55,140 --> 00:09:57,360 in September on 60 Minutes how is this 281 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,519 possible it's just unimaginable and then 282 00:09:59,519 --> 00:10:01,800 it turns out that he's got three sets of 283 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,260 documents and and you know for all of 284 00:10:04,260 --> 00:10:05,519 the talk from the White House yesterday 285 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:07,320 about how transparent they were remember 286 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,839 the first batch of documents they found 287 00:10:09,839 --> 00:10:12,000 before the midterm election in November 288 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,700 we didn't find out about it until there 289 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:17,160 was a response to a media break of this 290 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,220 story this week so uh This Modern White 291 00:10:20,220 --> 00:10:22,200 House was anything but transparent about 292 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,240 the fact that they had classified 293 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,660 documents